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Organisations, ECHR & Human Rights
Given the subject matter and the domain name this section really deserves to be GOOD. Unfortunately, the person compiling these links knows the underlying problem, some of the history, the Government responses and many of the protest sites moderately well, but knows next to nothing of Human Rights or the ECHR. All help with this section would be gratefully received. Briefly searching the web...
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http://www.echr.info/ - the Convention in many languages | |
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http://www.echr.coe.int/echr - the Court website - not a "brilliant" site but ok | |
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/useful_links.htm - some help and links from the Judicial Studies Board | |
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http://www.leeds.ac.uk/law/hamlyn/echr.htm - probably a useful overview? | |
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http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1998/19980042.htm - the UK Human Rights Act 1998 | |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/948143.stm - the BBC - often a useful source of info. for the masses | |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/law/echr.shtml - the BBC again, perhaps? | |
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http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/the-human-rights-act/european-convention-on-human-rights/european-convention-on-human-rights.shtml - Liberty is one long established campaigner - there are others, I am sure | |
As stated... Help Wanted!
Protest Sites & Dark-lists
Many of the sites listed below started as "rants" by individuals - folks that had been through the Law Society and the OLSO "mills" and came out badly. For some folks doing something is more tolerable than doing nothing. Some sites have evolved into far more, some are still basically "rants" but still serve a purpose. Different people have different methods and needs of expression - please remember their Article 10 rights :-) One thing is certain, running websites like these takes up time. These people care enough to work hard for what they believe in.
The "dark-lists" are mostly determined efforts to tackle the problem at it's roots. They aim to name and shame the perpetrators, the bad and crooked lawyers and their firms. After all, if nobody actually uses these firms then the so called "regulators" don't matter. Many sites have received threats of legal action against them. They remain and this itself is telling... if a law firm can't even protect it's own reputation, whether innocent or guilty, then it says little for their prowess as lawyers. Anyone looking for professional legal help might do worse than check the dark lists and do and Internet Search for the firm and the lawyer. There is seldom smoke without fire and do you really need to take the risk?
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UnJustIS - http://www.unjustis.co.uk/ - Paul Bantock's excellent site protests the failings of the Law Society and has been running for some years now. Good links to similar sites and the News section (click here for the latest) shows just how BAD some so-called "Legal Professionals" can be. A tremendous effort and well worth a visit. In a related vein... | |
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Rough Justice - http://www.roughjustice.org.uk well written comment and some sound advice based on experience. Check out the Law Society and the General Advice pages in particular.. | |
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FLINT - Families Link - http://www.familieslink.co.uk/pages/issues_profit_justice_solicitors.htm for it's very SIMPLE definition of the problem affecting ALL areas of civil litigation. Useful for family law problems too. | |
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CASIA - http://www.casiaweb.com/ - Complaints Against Solicitors (action for) Independent Adjudication - a long established action group. Lots of information and mirrored on AOL - http://members.aol.com/lawawful/OSS.htm | |
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Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers - http://www.sacl.info/ - impressive rogues gallery, information on the Scottish "regulators" and MUCH more. Challenged in the courts but growing stronger every time. A highly professional web site | |
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Ireland - http://www.crookedlawyers.com/ - many horror stories come from Ireland and (if possible) things seem even worse there. Their related site http://www.rate-your-solicitor.com/ is in High Court action. A good links section too. Interesting article from outside Europe - Canada - the problem is world-wide. | |
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Professional Rogues - ProfRogues - http://www.geocities.com/profrogues/ - a site started on FREE Yahoo (Goecities) web-space with some well written accounts. The end of the home page (currently) lists 9 Firms you may wish to avoid using, or at least treat with some suspicion. | |
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Solicitors From Hell - http://www.solicitorsfromhell.com/ - NOT to be confused with Rick's site (.co.uk) of the same name - this one has been running for years. Stacks of hard evidence and (it appears) the Law Society and the Firm Concerned tried very hard to have the site removed. Another good and well established links section (sorry, you're BOUND to find some duplication on the older sites) and a seeming light-hearted and satirical approach of giving nick-names to the bad guys. Something of a BLOG. | |
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Darklist - Solicitors From Hell - http://www.solicitorsfromhell.co.uk/ - Rick maintains records of Firms named and shamed by the site's visitors. Here you can list the rogues who have given bad service and search or browse for local firms - to AVOID. The site is VERY easy to use and you don't have to register or leave your name. Well over 100 firms/solicitors listed to date and many of these link to external sites too. | |
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Darklist (and more...) for families - Parents for Protest - http://www.parents4protest.co.uk/p4p/solicitors.htm solicitors to avoid in family matters. Colin (see below) maintains a copy of the list here. | |
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UK Fathers - A Valuable Resource - http://www.ukfathers.co.uk/ - masses of help and information for parents separated from their children. Information on bad solicitors and their impact on people. The site also has forums and Yahoo a discussion group. Amongst the resources open to the public are the Media Megaphone and the Parliamentary Megaphone. More about these on the Other Actions page.. | |
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Colin Cole - "A Gentleman of the Web" - Colin runs a number of "light hearted" protest sites and encourages others to share the extensive links he has collected. Colin is a prolific publisher who gaily ridicules every solicitor he has had, and a good many more besides - with some success. Not for the children, perhaps, but we must respect his Rights of Expression, smile sometimes... and maybe cheer when he hits gold. | |
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Recurring Themes - "From Hell" ... see above and also here. "Legal Bullies" - see here, here, here and here. | |
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Interesting - Dr. Rita Pal ... http://ritapal.com |
Regulators, Government, News and Official sites
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Regulators - First you must complain to the firm. All firms must operate a complaints handling procedure (according to Practice Rule 15, anyway. Almost all those who did complain to their solicitors’ practice were unhappy with the way their complaint was dealt with. Nearly three quarters said their complaint wasn’t resolved. Source Which? - try here for a summary if the link is still not working. | |
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Regulators - Next up the Law Society's CCS - After you've been given the brush-off by the Firms internal complaints system you are free to take matters (if your complaint is about a solicitor) to the Law Society. The department used to be called the Office for the Supervision of Solicitors (OSS) but, in April 2004, it was re-branded as the Consumer Complaints Service (CCS) - same sh*t, different day? If you are VERY patient and persistent (bloody minded?) ... here's where... http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/choosingandusing/redressscheme.law | |
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Regulators - Complaints against barristers go to the Bar Council | |
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Regulators - Complaints about Legal Executives (Members) go to ILEX - http://www.ilex.org.uk | |
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Expect long forms, delays, brush-offs and "ignore letters"... from ALL of the above - see next section for some personal testimony. | |
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Regulators - The final step is the Office for the Legal Services Ombudsman - http://www.olso.org/ - supposedly regulating the regulators. Yeah, right! | |
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Regulators - The Police - deal with criminal matters. You may find that for solicitor complaints the police will leave matters to the Law Society - there is an MOU between the police and the Law Society. | |
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Regulators - The Courts - According To Lord Donaldson in the Ct. of Appeal "...the Court exercises a supervisory jurisdiction over Solicitors as officers of the Court...". Good luck! Regulation factor is typically NIL despite Section 42 of the Access to Justice Act 1999. The "profession" typically closes ranks - can YOU find someone you can trust to work for you? Chances are you will end up with complaints against two practitioners or firms. | |
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Regulators - Solicitors Disciplinary Tribunal - http://www.solicitorstribunal.org.uk/ - in theory the SDT is "completely independent" and a division of the High Court. In theory they can accept complaints from the public, though they only received five in 2005 with only 1 making it past first base, and seven in 2006, six of which were dismissed out of hand. Can you guess who owns the computer system the SDT uses? Yes, the Law Society. The Law Society can and DOES interfere with emails to the SDT. Independent? No! | |
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How CAN so MANY "regulators" ALL fail? Why are there so MANY complaints? | |
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Office of the Legal Services Commissioner - http://www.olscc.gov.uk/ - Yes, it's the SAME person as the LSO. Have fun with their survey here.. | |
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News - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/381474.stm - 1999 "news" giving the size of the problem THEN - little has changed - read the "unprecedented interim report" from 2003 - indeed, things got much WORSE. | |
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Office - Which? The Consumer Association - some useful help, surveys, reports. An effective pressure group. Form the inside only. | |
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Government proposals - http://www.dca.gov.uk/legalsys/lsreform.htm - nearly two years on from the Clementi Review. Did you know there is a Professional Regulation Branch of the DCA? Write to them at this address. Professional Regulation Branch, 3rd floor (3.04), Selborne House, 54 Victoria Street, London, SW1E 6QW. Tel: 020 7210 8816, Fax: 020 7210 0613. | |
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When all else fails... from the INSIDE... http://www.echr.coe.int/echr - the ECHR |
Litigants in Person, Tools, Resources and Research.
Before you can bring any case to the ECHR you must have exhausted your domestic solutions. The links, resources and "advice" (see General Disclaimer) below are perhaps more applicable to domestic solutions. Hopefully they will be useful to someone, somewhere, at some point
For the Higher Courts (including the ECHR) you MUST be professionally represented when you have your "day in court". Try not to be put off by this potential expense. You can do much of the leg-work yourself and if you can achieve an Admissible case you have achieved a LOT. You will send a signal to the Government which may in itself be extremely valuable. The ECHR also caps the charges that can be made by representatives. If you can achieve admissibility you may well find any financial support you need. It is a long road but a VERY worth-while one.
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H.M. Courts Services website provides LOTS of useful information from Forms and Guidance notes (these are great) to a large dataBase of precedents and judgments. There's also a very useful (interactive) Court List which can help out with maps, directions, telephone and fax numbers. | |
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The Judicial Studies Board provides the training notes for judges (which REALLY help in understanding and interpreting the Acts, Statutory Instruments etc.) Check out the Civil Law Bench Book and the other Bench Books (see the "Most Visited Links" under "Publications") for a great para-phrasing of the Civil Procedures Rules (CPR) and much general advice for Judges. | |
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The Department of Constitutional Affairs (DCA) has a wealth of information. Check out the CPR (and the other Procedural Rules) here. Note that the CPR is backed by Practice Directions and all are available here. There's a LOT more to this website... use the dedicated search facilities to find what you need. | |
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This seems useful general advice - http://www.elc.org.uk/pages/lawlips.htm and seems to be taken largely from here http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1343.htm (a more authorative site?) | |
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CLS - Community Legal Services Direct has some good links (maybe?) and you can check out your legal aid status and more. | |
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SWARB - a very useful site with (currently) over 2,300 pages of potentially useful information. They also run some FORUMS which are probably a "must" for any serious LIP - ask questions and get some free advice - just be careful what you do with it ;-) | |
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In a similar vein (possibly) to SWARB - http://www.venables.co.uk/individtopics.htm | |
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Legal Costs - http://www.wigg.co.uk/1.htm | |
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A couple more ... http://www.bailii.org/databases.html#ew and http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/ and see the Research Page. | |
http://www.troublesover.co.uk - More help on Family Issues and for LIP's |
Brief General "Advice": More applicable to domestic cases, perhaps... You're may be entitled to a free half hour solicitors time - try your local CAB (or the CLS site) for information. You can probably blag a longer "free" appointment too, from most high-street practices - just pretend you are thinking of instructing them - immoral? - If you're up against £150+ / hr "professionals" you might just get your £9.25/hr pittance... if you win... methinks they can afford a little "charity work". Keep meticulous records. Know the Rules. Prepare. Read books (library? University Library?). Be patient (the patience of a saint is usually required) . Take a McKenzie friend along. Research - use the WWW ... the ".uk" versions or select "Results from the UK" helps (though this may restrict you if searching for Europe-wide problems and cases). It will also help if you have an understanding of HOW to construct decent search phrases. My own favorite meta Search Engine is http://www.dogpile.co.uk - or use this...
Quick Padding? People represent themselves for many reasons. For many there's no choice - they simply can't afford to pay a professional and Legal Aid has been cut. Many people and small businesses successfully pursue small claims through the Courts in an economical and proportionate manner - you can even claim on-line these days. Figures suggest that LIP's are on the increase. A great deal of the "work" solicitors charge £100's / hr for is simple form filling... but there are pitfalls. Some things are not obvious and you probably need all the help you can get. Contacting other applicants may help you to help each other.
The very BEST of luck - being a LIP can be lonely (various Forums, groups and other applicants might help here) - but if you try you are certainly praise-worthy. If you are also successful then you should be proud indeed. Going "the whole hog" to the ECHR will seem daunting but it is NOT impossible - some people have done it. Can you? If not, can you help? - click here
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